[Flex] Fwd: Re: More Notes for NSF from Sheila Clifford

[Sheila Clifford]

Yup - I think this is an "every department for themselves" type thing.
sheila

On 2/5/2015 1:40 PM, Sarah Xander wrote:
> We have been told to /NOT/ include WHOI collaborators, so our PIs in 
> PO took them off.
>
> Sarah
>
> On 2/5/2015 1:35 PM, Mary Schumacher wrote:
>> For what it's worth, MPC PIs always include WHOI collaborators, and 
>> we've never had anything returned for that.
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> On 2/5/2015 1:25 PM, Sheila Clifford wrote:
>>> Hi Shirley -
>>>
>>> I have /*not*/ had them returned yet saying not to include WHOI 
>>> people.  I think that AGES ago the GPG used to say not to include 
>>> people from one's home institution, but it doesn't explicitly say 
>>> this anymore, though it does say they are obviously in conflict. My 
>>> reasoning /for/ including them is this: how does the 
>>> "reviewer-picker" know that a co-author is from WHOI unless I list 
>>> them and label them as such? - unless the"reviewer-picker" is really 
>>> knowledgeable.
>>>
>>> I figure each NSF program manager (Bio Oce, Chem Oce, PO, etc) will 
>>> want things a bit different - just like ours still likes to see the 
>>> WHOI budget in Supp Docs.  I think we'll still do our Bios the way 
>>> we have been doing them, but when we send a bio to PO for inclusion 
>>> in a proposal, we are probably going to need reminding to strip out 
>>> the WHOI collaborators.
>>>
>>> Sheila
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/5/2015 12:43 PM, Shirley Barkley wrote:
>>>> Sheila-
>>>>
>>>> Was this discussed at the Flex meeting.  Notes say to include WHOI 
>>>> collaborators, but Susan Sholi said not to.???
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Shirley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>> Subject: 	Re: More Notes for NSF from Sheila Clifford
>>>> Date: 	Thu, 05 Feb 2015 12:29:19 -0500
>>>> From: 	Gabrielle Santore <gsantore at whoi.edu>
>>>> To: 	Shirley Barkley <sbarkley at whoi.edu>, AOPE AP <aope-ap at whoi.edu>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FYI -- Susan Sholi in PO told me /*not*/ to list any WHOI people 
>>>> under collaborators and co-authors on NSF CVs because PO has had 
>>>> them returned for a proposal file update when they have included 
>>>> WHOI people in the past.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/5/2015 12:12 PM, Shirley Barkley wrote:
>>>>> Make note of comments in Biosketch.  List all collaborators even 
>>>>> WHOI people and include total number of collaborators.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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