[Flex] Fwd: Re: More Notes for NSF from Sheila Clifford

Sarah Xander sxander at whoi.edu
Thu Feb 5 13:40:59 EST 2015


We have been told to /NOT/ include WHOI collaborators, so our PIs in PO 
took them off.

Sarah

On 2/5/2015 1:35 PM, Mary Schumacher wrote:
> For what it's worth, MPC PIs always include WHOI collaborators, and 
> we've never had anything returned for that.
> Mary
>
>
> On 2/5/2015 1:25 PM, Sheila Clifford wrote:
>> Hi Shirley -
>>
>> I have /*not*/ had them returned yet saying not to include WHOI 
>> people.  I think that AGES ago the GPG used to say not to include 
>> people from one's home institution, but it doesn't explicitly say 
>> this anymore, though it does say they are obviously in conflict. My 
>> reasoning /for/ including them is this: how does the 
>> "reviewer-picker" know that a co-author is from WHOI unless I list 
>> them and label them as such? - unless the"reviewer-picker" is really 
>> knowledgeable.
>>
>> I figure each NSF program manager (Bio Oce, Chem Oce, PO, etc) will 
>> want things a bit different - just like ours still likes to see the 
>> WHOI budget in Supp Docs.  I think we'll still do our Bios the way we 
>> have been doing them, but when we send a bio to PO for inclusion in a 
>> proposal, we are probably going to need reminding to strip out the 
>> WHOI collaborators.
>>
>> Sheila
>>
>>
>> On 2/5/2015 12:43 PM, Shirley Barkley wrote:
>>> Sheila-
>>>
>>> Was this discussed at the Flex meeting.  Notes say to include WHOI 
>>> collaborators, but Susan Sholi said not to.???
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Shirley
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject: 	Re: More Notes for NSF from Sheila Clifford
>>> Date: 	Thu, 05 Feb 2015 12:29:19 -0500
>>> From: 	Gabrielle Santore <gsantore at whoi.edu>
>>> To: 	Shirley Barkley <sbarkley at whoi.edu>, AOPE AP <aope-ap at whoi.edu>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> FYI -- Susan Sholi in PO told me /*not*/ to list any WHOI people 
>>> under collaborators and co-authors on NSF CVs because PO has had 
>>> them returned for a proposal file update when they have included 
>>> WHOI people in the past.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/5/2015 12:12 PM, Shirley Barkley wrote:
>>>> Make note of comments in Biosketch.  List all collaborators even 
>>>> WHOI people and include total number of collaborators.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
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